Curse

byobodybag · May 25, 2006, 08:50 PM // 20:50

I was thinking of having a longbow and a flatbow... what do you usually have in mind to put on them as mods for use in either PVE/PVP?

I know it'll end up as user preference but I just wanted to find out what you'd have...

and if there was such a bow a sundering string would complement what do you think it would be?

Thanks guys.

SnipiousMax · May 25, 2006, 09:10 PM // 21:10

The only mod that has no use at all, and you'll end up the worse for putting it on your bow is a Zealous string.

Defense or Fortitude usually for your Grip

String depends on what kind of role you expect to be filling. Most damage dealers like Vampiric for the added 5 armor ignoring damage.

byobodybag · May 25, 2006, 09:20 PM // 21:20

exactly one of the things i had in mind, a vampiric flatbow of fortitude...

khangaroo · May 26, 2006, 10:50 PM // 22:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnipiousMax

The only mod that has no use at all, and you'll end up the worse for putting it on your bow is a Zealous string.

Defense or Fortitude usually for your Grip

String depends on what kind of role you expect to be filling. Most damage dealers like Vampiric for the added 5 armor ignoring damage.

how come zealous has no use?

Reikai · May 27, 2006, 12:30 AM // 00:30

search about the zealous, I've made an entire post reguarding the math of all that.

anyway, it really depends if its a longbow or a flatbow.

if its a longbow, sundering/foritutde for ranger spike
if its a flatbow, merch it.

Reikai · May 27, 2006, 12:32 AM // 00:32

search about the zealous, I've made an entire post reguarding the math of all that.

anyway, it really depends if its a longbow or a flatbow.

if its a longbow, sundering/foritutde for ranger spike
if its a flatbow, merch it.

Katari · May 27, 2006, 03:24 AM // 03:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reikai

search about the zealous, I've made an entire post reguarding the math of all that.

anyway, it really depends if its a longbow or a flatbow.

if its a longbow, sundering/foritutde for ranger spike
if its a flatbow, merch it.

Sundering is only slightly better than no string at all, It's certainly not what you want for R-Spike. If you're looking for damage, you'll want Vamp.

ubrikkean · May 27, 2006, 04:39 AM // 04:39

@Katari
You want a non-vampiric bow as well for RSpike, so you have no degen while attacking. The standard is a Vampiric Horn Bow of Fortitude for the actual spiking.

As for PvE, zealous is the best mod for the flatbow if you run a build with Dual Shot, or even better, Barrage. Also, if you're a R/E you could consider using a Conjure [Element] spell and putting an [Element] bow string on. I'm not a fan of longbows in PvE... slower refire rate than flatbows, same range, and the lower arc doesn't matter because PvE enemies don't know to dodge them. Also if you use a build that involves a condition you might want to get the bow string for that condition, such as a Poisonous Bow String if you use Apply Poison.

4runner · May 27, 2006, 05:18 PM // 17:18

or have a bow for each:

1.Vampiric Horn Bow Of Fort
2.zealous short bow of shelter
3.Poisoners Recurve bow Fort
4.Vampiric Recurve Bow shelter
5.Zealous Eternal bow of Frot
6.Shocking Eternal Bow of Fort

Valkyries · May 27, 2006, 07:00 PM // 19:00

I had a very similar question actually and didn't want to open up another post.

Im using a Longbow (because Zodiacs are longbows and Anet apparently secretly hates me)

And I was also wondering what strings/grip to put on

I bought a Vamp 5/-1 and a Marks +1 (20%) because I got them VERY cheap (like 6k total)... but Im not really sure if they should go for a longbow or if its better for a different type of bow.

A lot of people tell me to use Sundering but Im sorry I just don't know if its really that good. Maybe Im wrong?!? Can someone please give me some insight on what is best to use?

Thanks and sorry for hijacking your post.

I just thought it was better to ask here than start a new thread.

Nestaron · May 28, 2006, 03:24 PM // 15:24

If my understanding is correct then Sundering is crap as theres only 20% chance of it actually making a diference... That means 80% of the time you're as good as firing with no mod.

As for Zealous isn't that a 1:-1 mod? This is where i'm not exactly sure with the times but you lose 1 energy every second yeah? Average time between arrows is 2.something seconds so it would seem you are constantly losing energy regardless of gaining 1pip on hit. Can only see Zealous being useful if you're planning on being a barrage spammer in which case you have no need for Zealous, as with decent expertise Barrage will only cost 2 energy and by the time it recharges you should have full energy back.

Poison strings are nice... The drawback with them though is enemies without flesh as they can't be poisoned. But when that comes across my path i just focus on interupting them.

Cyan The Archer · May 28, 2006, 03:59 PM // 15:59

I would put a Poison mod on, and a 5+ defense.

M3lk0r · May 28, 2006, 04:03 PM // 16:03

Yes, nicely put Nestaron except for one thing.

In PvE if I'm going for damage, I almost always use Tiger's Fury these days. At 14 expertise TF (and most other actual-damage attacks) cost 4e only. Combined with a Shortbow, zelaous and vamp are very powerful.

My bow setup includes (for PvE) -

Main offensive Halfmoon = 14>50 5/1 Vamp and +25hp.

Slightly more defensive Shortbow = 20<50 1/1 Zealous and +5AL

Interrupting Composite = 15>50 Elemental +20hp

Pulling/Poison/JI Storm = 15>50 Posion Ench20%

For PvP you'll mostly be spiking or playing crip shot. As was mentioned before, spiking needs a 5/1 vamp on a horn bow and crip shot needs a poison composite.